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  1. That sounds pretty high to me, especially when we take into consideration the entire lifespan. The ID twins that I’ve come across seem pretty different–i.e. personality and life-choices.

    It’s interesting stuff, though. Any chance you could post a link to the study?

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  2. There are several famous studies. I think the most famous was done at the Mayo clinic. In many cases they are studying identical twins separated at birth. Since they are genetically identical, they can study the effects by the environment and other social conditioning. The conclusion is that in areas where they act the same, it’s probably genetics.

    Here is one link for the University of Minnesota: http://www.psych.umn.edu/psylabs/mtfs/default.htm

    Here is one from Colorado;
    http://ibgwww.colorado.edu/lts/publishedarticles.htm

    Here is one from Virginia;
    http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/565673

    Here’s a youtube video that shows a lot more. Look at how similar they are in mannerism, use of hands, even how they choose to dress. Some of these videos are almost spooky. Again identical twins separated at birth.

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  3. Thanks… that’s an interesting video! A ‘Frankenstein’ doctor, indeed! Fortunately it all seemed to work out happily for them.

    Theologians, of course, would say that the nature/nurture question is somewhat incomplete. For them there’s an important third component, that being spirit. So one could see it more as a triad.

    ///// Spirit \\\\\
    Nature-Nurture

    “Spirit is something… no one can destroy”

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9rDJvGSFY-c

    –Traffic

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  4. One of the reasons a lot of behavior is genetic is simple a survival thing. It helps avoid a constant decision making process that would simply be overwhelming especially in a time of crisis. The idea of being hard wired in certain ways makes it much easier to function. The puts a damper on some of the behavioral theories which seem to work much better with animals that humans.

    So here’s my funny thought for the day. I would like to see Pavlov and his dog meet Caesar Milan the Dog Whisperer. If you not familiar with him, you can Youtube parts of his TV show.

    Okay, in the scene Pavlov tries to get is dog to stop barking using conditioning. Not easy with some dog. Caesar Milan demonstrate that he’s the alpha dog with calm assertive energy and say shhhs. The dog stops sits up and is ready for the next command. He says, “you see if you understand dog psychology the dog will do what you want.” I guess you have to see it.

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  5. Just checked out the video. Thanks. One thing I really like and admire about Americans is that they’re into so many different, creative things. And they’re generally not hung up or phony about the necessary business aspects of life.

    As for the instinct thing, well, I guess what I’m saying is that some behaviors seem to be traceable to genes alone but one can conceive of that fitting into a broader canvas. As far as I’m concerned William of Occam (of Occam’s razor fame) was just a guy… not God.

    Thanks again for the great comments!

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